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Discussions - On Other Matters - View Post - Archive
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6/20/2008 12:51:00 AM
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Nostradama | 
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Re: The police and Super Ludicrous--isn't he a hip-hop artist?
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I went back to the web pages of that city's two major dailies, and the original stories, which had appeared at 5:00 pm had disappeared by 12:00 midnight. Mysterious. Maybe somebody wised up that the new designations weren't too well chosen. I wish I could give you more specific, concrete information. I should have printed the stories out while they were still there. Haven't been archived yet, either.
One of the "ludicrous chronic criminals" has a record so long that our criminal record data banks (they say) don't have the space to accommodate his record.
However, the bulk of the crimes (and I think maybe we have some differences in definitions of crimes between our two countries) are, and this is taken from the scraps that remain of the stories: robbery, theft under $5,000 and breaking and entering. Big emphasis on breaking and entering. A huge rise in B & E, apparently, which police are attributing to crystal meth use. And we're not talking about hundreds of offences, we're talking about many thousands of them. Police estimate many of these guys are committing crimes every few hours. Most of them are sentenced to maybe a year, and then the sentence is suspended, so that unless they're caught committing another crime during that year, they're right back out on the streets. If they go to jail to serve the year, they get at least four months of that year off for good behaviour, plus double time off the sentence if they weren't out on bail. So if they sat in cells for three weeks awaiting trial, then that's another six weeks off the sentence.
We don't elect our judges here, they're appointed until they reach mandatory retirement age. And that's probably a part of the problem. Many people in law enforcement are totally disgusted with our judges. Cops work their butts off trying to keep the streets safe, they nail the guys, and then sit in court and watch them get a slap on the wrist. Suspended sentence, probation, short sentences. After all, this is the country of which it's said "This is Canada, you get three years for murder." And that's pretty well the truth.
Canadian criminals absolutely fear being arrested and charged in the US. You've got one of ours up on charges in Seattle right now, on charges that would get him five to ten years here (the total of which he wouldn't serve here, anyway) but down there he's facing an absolute minimum of twenty. We're laughing our heads off. He's the alleged head of a gang so scarey that the Hell's Angels are afraid of them, and admit it.
The police chief making the announcement said "In the States, it's three strikes and you're out. Here it's more than thirty." That's absolutely the truth. I can only personally remember two people in the last thirty years who were actually sentenced to life without parole.
I personally know a guy who was charged for using a baseball bat to break the knee of an intruder in his house in the middle of the night. The intruder hadn't actually done "that much" (?) and had gone through "pain and suffering because of his injuries" and wasn't even charged. Go figure.
If I can track down more definitive explanations of what's a crime and what isn't, I'll get back to you with the information.
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